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Written by Derek Pye   
Sunday, 05 June 2005 17:55
The wedding season has really kicked in now. I had three at the weekend, the wife did one and fortunately I had e-mail from an asylum seeker on Friday asking me to help him get work. I threw him straight in at the deep end, leaving me to relax at the flash one in Catford. I had an excellent time - lovely bit of booze on offer, but I messed up by not grabbing a glass as soon as I arrived at the reception. This is really important as once all the guests arrive, the waiters switch to topping up mode and it can be a real pain trying to get a glass. When the meal started I was overjoyed to be seated with...  some of the bride's close family from Germany. My German is rubbish, and I told them the only phrase I knew was 'Achtung Minen' but it was OK as most of them spoke passable English.

Never let it be said that the krauts don't have a sense of humour! We had a right laugh and most of my jokes went down a treat. They left early and even my gag about them going to put their towels down round the hotel pool got a big laugh. They really were great - not like the Nazis at all.

The bride and groom had opted for my 'Traditional' package so I didn't have that many photos to shoot. The biggest problem I had was that the bride, like most women, had really fat arms and sweated a lot. Now these days you needn't worry about this as you can use Photoshop Elements to reduce the 'double wave' and sweat patches.

One thing I have noticed over the years is that even the best clients will have an elderly relative in a wheelchair. This isn't a problem if you're shooting Reportedge™ as you can get some dramatic action shots using the chair. It´s a different matter with Traditional wedding photography as no one wants an ugly wheelchair in the shots and it messes up the composition, having someone sat down when everyone else is stood up. One solution is to carry a spare wheelchair in the boot and coerce a willing guest to sit in it on the opposite side, to balance things out. Alternatively if the cripple can stand a bit then get them out of the chair and prop them against a nearby wall. You can then set the group up around them.

Under no circumstances should you Photoshop the spastic out of the chair and onto made up legs. You will get complaints if you do this. Trust me!
rarely late!

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Jason , March 05, 2009
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All I can say is I'm grateful that I live in a completely different country. You strike me as a very arrogant, unprofessional, and disgusting man, and you would be the last person I would ever use as a wedding photographer. To some people, wheelchairs are a necessary piece of equipment. A cousin got married last year, and my elderly grandmother (who has since passed away) was lucky enough to be allowed out of hospital for the day as she had just been diagnosed with a hole in her heart, and had become very weak.

But I have been "googling" weddings and wheelchairs as my partner (the eventual groom at our wedding) is in a wheelchair. Without his wheelchair, he would not be able to go anywhere. It is not something we hide in any of our photos. It is an extension of him.

I feel very sorry for you. You seem to have very few ethics (I gleam that from your comments about the bride's fat arms and sweat patches) - perhaps you should have sent her the link to these comments.

"One of the problems of being the UK's most highly sought after husband and wife wedding photography team is the amount of weddings I have to go to."

Misleading representation of yourself. If everyone in the UK saw your site, trust me, that would soon change! Grow some decency. Quick.
Disgusted , April 18, 2009
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Distance isn't a problem. Do you want Reportedge or Mystike?
Derek , April 20, 2009
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You're fucking hilarious mate, keep it up.
Fred , May 02, 2009
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do you have an agent for the The Derek Pye Cathedral Dome Flash Diffuser!
Mr A Tit , May 16, 2009
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What an ass! Ever considered that you could be in a wheelchair someday, too? Obviously not, coz if you could think that far, you wouldnt be the sorry piece of filth you are, would you?
disgusted2 , June 12, 2009
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I'm confused Disgusted2, you seem to be implying that if you can think far ahead then you are unlikely to be a sorry piece of filth. Well I'm quite forward thinking and I turned out to be a mass murderer.
Harold Shipman , June 12, 2009
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Dear Disgusted2

I am shocked that you seem to be implying that being in a wheelchair is a bad thing. This is the kind of patronising attitude that many of my disabled friends resent. Have you ever considered that being sat down in a chair that can move is actually something rather lovely. You make me sick!

Please write soon

Rose

Rose West , June 13, 2009
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Dear rose, i am NOT at all implying that being in a wheelchair is a bad thing! What a thing to say!! I was only trying to make the author of that article realise that the person was not in a wheelchair just to spoil the picture that was being taken, he actually NEEDED it to get around. What i meant was that, if the author came to depend on a wheelchair to get around one day, he'd stop seeing it as an ugly thing that messes up photographs and start seeing it as a tool for mobility.

I really did not mean to offend those who use wheelchairs; please do not try to read in my message more than i tried to convey in it. I have great respect for everyone, wheelchair user or not, provided that they deserve it. The person who complained about having to take a picture with someone in a wheelchair in it does not deserve it.

Love,
Anikka.
disgusted2 , June 18, 2009
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Mr Harold Shipman,

What i meant by "if you could think that far ahead" was "if you could think that one day you might have to use a wheelchair too, then you would not have seen it as an ugly thing that people use just to spoil your pictures", as i explained to rose.

I did NOT mean that those who can think far ahead are not filth.

Again, please, do not twist the meaning of whatever i have written. I am not a patronising know-it-all, i was just incensed at someone who had written what i consider to be an arrogant and degrading article and to find people thinking it's hilarious.

Regards,
Anikka.
disgusted2 , June 18, 2009
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I think you are patronising and a know it all. You assume that people in wheelchairs have no sense of humour and that everyone should feel sorry for us. It is obvious from your tone that you are just one of those lefty liberal do gooders who probably has no gay disabled friends to speak of. I myself am a disabled lesbian and I thought the article was funny and when I have my photo taken at weddings I hate being wheeled down the front like a small insignificant child while everybody says 'aaaaahh' I prefer to struggle out, despite my lack of a leg, and being propped up at the side is by far the best solution.

Thank you and goodbye.

All the best

Rose
Rose West , June 18, 2009
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Jeez, and i thought you were alright, Rose! You're welcome to think whatever you like, am not going to stop you voicing out your opinion like you're trying to do to me. I'll just say that there was absolutely no need to jump to conclusions and judge me when you didnt understand the essence of what i was trying to say in my first message.

And am not even going to try to explain (again) what i meant. You obviously WANT to believe the worst about me!

If i had to describe you, i'd find many unflattering adjectives that'd do the job, but i'm not going to do it, because there's some difference between me and you, and i'd prefer it remain this way.

I suppose we do need all kinds to make this world... (sigh)

Babye, take care!
disgusted2 , June 19, 2009
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Did I mention I was a mass murderer?
Harold Shipman , June 20, 2009
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What a cop out - yes there is a difference between us, darling. I'm a crippled lesbian in a wheelchair and you, my dear, are a thought nazi!

Thank you and goodnight

All the best

Rose

Rose West , June 22, 2009
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As a Disabled bride-to-be I am absolutely disgusted by your comments about the bride and even more so by the way you talk about disabled guests!!!!!!!!!!!

It's fine to have an opinion and you are of course entitled to yours whether I agree or not but I think that posting this on your own website is surely professional suicide. I am in the process of looking for a photographer for my upcoming wedding and after what I have just read I would rather have no pics at all than have someone so disrespectful attending at my wedding. Although I am sure that given you attitude towards the disabled you wouldn't want my business anyway!!!!

I truly hope that you never find yourself disabled for any reason as from reading your comments I honestly don't think you would ever have the strength of character to pick up the pieces of your life and cope with it.
Kate , January 17, 2010
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Your attempts at personalising disability in the context of aesthetics emphasise your weaknesses as a photographer. As someone who provides a service which relies on creative ability, you fall short as an artist, of course too as a person in general but this is obvious and worthless to mull over as people like yourself who self-proclaim themselves as 'photographers', are really just people who have bought a camera know how to use some of the buttons, but completely lack anything else that is required of a photographer. I am sure your photographs are usually unimpressive cliché's mimicking corporate companies who offer mundane moments which celebrate banality, which for you is all you can hope to amount too.
pixie bum , January 28, 2010
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oh my goodness, i have just seen dereck's photos and i am baffled, i can't believe i wasted my time writing here, you are a little mischief maker and that is all... serves me right for reading the article and only the article before i went on a little rant.. my apologies, you can go back to sleep now..
pixie bum , January 28, 2010
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I do in fact have a disabled badge for the car and I resent the implication that I myself am not in fact disabled. The social agreed that the footage of me running to the Job Centre was inadmissible in court on the grounds that it could in fact have been speeded up using clever digital enhancement editing techniques.

All the best

Derek

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Derek , January 28, 2010
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Derek, I find your suggestion about using a spare wheelchair to balance up group shots very unhelpful. Being the UK's top husband and wife wedding photographers you may be able to afford these items but not all of us can. I suggest encouraging the bride and groom to invite wheelchair users in twos so that this problem is avoided altogether. As for the rest of your advice, well it has been enlightening and my photography is going from strength to strength.
Paul Davies , April 07, 2010
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Paul, Paul, Paul - There is no need to purchase a wheelchair. Your local hospital will have plenty available just lying around awaiting collection. Tip: take an elderly relative with you. Get them to sit in it and wheel them home. Works every time.
Derek , April 07, 2010
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Dick head, people in wheelchairs struggle with wondering if people are looking at them differently and then YOU say things like that!
lets hope you dont get to witness life from a wheelchair, or maybe you should just to change your views!
Zec , April 25, 2010
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Oh my word! Nobody has a sense of humour anymore - what is happening to us? Please - get a life all you mother grundies - and learn to laugh!!!smilies/cry.gif
Magickdiva , July 09, 2010
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I am disabled, yes in a wheelchair, and I am a professional photographer with a degree and an MA in the subject and I cannot believe what a rude and offensive twat you are. Your really make me feel sick and tbh I hope your business fails. You insufferable little twerp!!!!!!!!
Shocked! , August 10, 2010
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I hardly think it's acceptabe for a professional photographer to call someone else a 'twat', although given you have a degree and an MA you'll know all the implications of the word. Probably. smilies/kiss.gif
Bing Crosby , August 11, 2010
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If you have an MA you should really know that 7 exclamation marks are unnecessary. I'm not sure if it's possible for Derek to go out of business.
Christine DerekPyeFanGirl , August 16, 2010

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